I had a funny thing happen today at the casino. I arrived at the table and this guy had about $6,000 to $8,000 in front of him and he started throwing, I waited for the 5 count to complete and put out a come bet, he sevens out and looks at me and says you won your come bet but I lost $1,500, I said that I don't think my come bet had any influence on you throwing a seven. There were a lot of establishing a point and and then 7 out, meanwhile this guy using place bets was losing about $1,000 a shooter and it just so happens alot of the sevens came on roll 6 which of course means my come bet would win. Finally by the time the guy was just about out of chips he rolled 5 numbers and I throw out my come bet, he makes a face and flips the bird with both hands throws a seven and storms off. I say all that to say I left with a profit a short time later and he lost a bunch of money not even realizing that if he would only change to come betting and if he knew about the 5 count he would have still had most of his chips. By the way all the dealers were happy he left...he really was a jerk...I kind of did enjoy watching him get more and more pissed with each come bet.

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Posted by: Dominator on November 7, 2017, 12:52 pm

Love it

All together now

THANK YOU 5 COUNT

Dom

Posted by: Beancounter1959 on November 17, 2017, 9:51 pm

I don’t post much, but thought this might help some readers who are skeptical on the 5 count.

I’m in the Big Easy for a few days. I was playing at a well known casino in what became a very crowded game shortly after I bought in. It was at the time the only table open. My options were to quit before I ever touched the dice (which was probably the best thing to do) on a table that I had success on previously, or wait out the throngs of players coming and going and strictly apply the 5 count (sometimes extending it to a 6 or 7 count).

In the hour and a half I was at the table, there were only 5 shooters that made the 5 count. There were a lot of come out winners and come out losers, so the rolls appeared to last longer than they really were (very few box numbers were thrown).

I shot twice making only one pass in the process. I am a green chip player that will generally take max odds on myself and other controlled shooters; but only $25/$30 odds (1 number only) on others.

The guy next to me was a green chip player, except he had a pass line bet with $50 odds and $260/$270 across on everyone that walked up.

Applying the 5 count as I mentioned, I left the table with a $185 loss - not a good session because I didn’t shoot well. But I was one pass away from being even; two passes away from being significantly positive.

Meanwhile, the guy next to me ended up rebuying in twice, and at last count he had dropped $2,100 and looked like he had been run over by a truck. He wasn’t the only one - there were other players that dropped another $12-15,000 during this wonderful time at the table.

As GTC has preached since day 1 - the 5 count doesn’t turn the odds of the game to your favor; only developing the skill to control the dice can do that. What it does do is prevent you from digging a hole so large that it takes a monster roll of your own to sniff getting even. Use the 5 count, and when you shoot well, take it to the house.

Posted by: JawBones on November 17, 2017, 10:01 pm

Great Post Beancounter! This is a perfect illustration of the value of the 5-Count.